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November 2016

posted 6 Nov 2016, 18:19 by Ian Holmes-Lewis   [ updated 10 Sep 2017, 11:47 ]

Community Bulletin Appeal - Update

I just want to say a big "THANK YOU" to those individuals and organisations who have donated to and supported the continued production of our community bulletin for 2017.
Our target was £1,280 - at the time of writing we just need another £360 - We are nearly there! Can you help?
If you would like to donate you can contact Mark Baugh on T: 851059 or M: 07940 421038 or

Some Progress Towards New Path 

Earlier this year “Paths for All” contacted community councils and groups to offer help with working up proposals for path improvements. As this service was free the community council identified the postponed path to the Comrie Colliery access road.

Kevin Fairclough took on the remit of identifying a route with gradients suitable for less mobile people, which was suitable for all users, attractive and minimised maintenance requirements. He was also asked to provide cost estimates.

Kevin has now completed his work, which can be obtained by contacting David Chisholm ( or Donald Murdoch (

Saline Primary School 

We will be welcoming new pupils from the housing estate development in Oakley Road in the new year, if not before, as these houses are released. We are looking forward to this.

The School is having a World of Work Week from 14th to 18th November and would be interested in hearing from people within the local community about what they are employed to do. The school want the children to learn about a variety of various roles in the world of work. If you can help please contact and someone will get back to you.

The school is also focussing on the First Minister's Reading Challenge and is looking for adults to come in and read extracts of their favourite book, support small groups of reading ( under supervision) and share in the joy of reading. Again if you can help please contact the school through the email above or by leaving a message at the school office . 01383 602430.

Primary 1/2 and 3/4 will be sharing 'Lights, Camels, Action', their Nativity in school , as they did last year. They will provide a small insight into this at the Christmas Service on 23rd December from 9.30-10.30, led by our Senior pupils, in Saline Parish Church.

The school wants to make many links with the local community as part of our curricular development. Please watch out for further information about how you can become involved.

Please also visit the school website. I hope this helpful to you. If you need to discuss anything please call me at school.

Anne Wilson – Headteacher - Saline Primary School 


David Chisholm welcomed 2 new people to the meeting. He drew attention to the sad death of Roddy Jones who had been a regular attendee until ill health prevented this. He expressed sympathy for Roddy's widow, Sue. 

As with September's meeting, most discussion was on continuing issues 

West Road 

George Duncan continues to be unhappy with Transportation's responses to his concerns. He was a passenger in a car that had a near miss head-on collision west of Saline. He considered that the chicanes on West Road are dangerous while others complained of excessive speeds and felt that an electronic speed warning would help. It was agreed that Transportation would be contacted on both issues. 

Oakley Road Leak 

Stewart Miller continues to act on our behalf and had suggested that Scottish Water replace the existing pipe as the community council was concerned about leaking water freezing during winter months. Scottish Water had indicated that the 2 leaks were not in the pipe itself and that it still had a useful life. However, they will intercept and divert the leaks in the meantime. Regarding the blocked gulleys, Transportation has been advised of the situation. 

Stewart deserves a medal for his commitment to resolving this problems 


The secretary has written to BT expressing concern about poor broadband reception, identifying specific cases and flagging up BT equipment full of water. Thanks are due to Stewart Miller and Peter Ball for their researches. 

BT is currently working on “essential works” between Saline and Oakley. The question is whether these will result in improvements 

Playground Group 

Nicola Smith advised that all equipment has now been removed from the North Road play area, which helps as the cost of this had previously been part of the project that the group was raising funds for. Flooding continues to be a problem but a site visit with Fife Council had identified a possible solution. This requires money for design work and Fife Council's Area Committee has been asked fund this. With regard to remediation of the flooding, those present felt that it should be funded by Fife Council and not by the project budget. 

The group has deferred its application to Fife Environment Trust but now has the financial information that will permit an application to be made in early 2017. Other possible funding was discussed and in the meantime the group will continue holding fund-raising events, the latest being a pyjama party. 

The group now has its own bank account and the community council will be transferring the money raised at Donna Chesby's funeral 

This group has been commendably active in organising events to raise cash towards improving our play areas. All have been well supported by the community and it's to be hoped that this support will continue. Should there be a Boxers party for the lads? 

Bus Service 

The new route and timetable seem to be well received although concern remains about gaps in the early morning and mid afternoon. The service seems to running well and it was felt that Cllr Bobby Clelland's letter explaining the arrangements for residents and bus users had been a big help. 

Kingdom Housing Association Development 

There was disappointment that the development had slipped again due to delays with the planning application and more impact surveys by Scottish Water. However, it was understood that Fife Council has started allocating the council houses on the Allanwater site. At least one Saline family has been allocated a home. 

Police Report 

16 calls were received by Police Scotland over the past month with one recorded as a crime and an individual had been arrested. 

Community Bulletin 

As indicated by Mark in the last issue, funds are needed to continue publication of the popular Bulletin. A number of groups have agreed to sponsor an issue while an individual has offered to fund an issue in memory of Alan Robertson who died earlier this year. Alan was active in our community for a long time and will be missed. The community council itself has also agreed to fund an issue. 

Thanks are due to those that have agreed to contribute and the Community Bulletin is safe in the meantime. However, funding is always required and it would be useful if people would come forward to help raise money to keep the Bulletin informing and entertaining the community 


It was noted that the draft SESplan, proposed constituency boundary changes and Police Scotland are being consulted on. 

SESplan is the strategic plan for the Edinburgh City Region that will now guide development until 2030. Detailed proposals for Fife will, in turn, be made in FIFEplan. The draft plan is now out for consultation with a closing date for comments of 24th November 2016. The draft plan can be downloaded at or paper copies can be read at libraries and planning offices. 

Boundary Commission Scotland has produced its proposals for boundary changes to reduce the number of Scottish constituencies. This community is affected in that some of the rural parts are proposed for transfer to a new Kinross and Cowdenbeath constituency while Dalgety Bay and Aberdour are added. Details of the proposals are available at, by emailing or by writing to Boundary Commission Scotland, Thistle House, 91 Haymarket Terrace, Edinburgh EH12 5HD. The deadline for comments is 11th January 2017. 

Police Scotland is conducting a consultation “Your View Counts” The Fife Division's focus is on gathering and understanding the views that reflect communities' views and is committed to listening. They are now consulting via http:/ 

Cllr Kate Stewart. 

Cllr Stewart has attended the recent SESplan presentation and welcomed the investigation of the potential use of the Dunfermline to Alloa railway line. She felt that this would open up economic activity, particularly in tourism. She advised on progress by the Longannet Task Force and the additional funds now allocated but felt that Scottish Power should be paying more to reflect the impact made on local communities when the power station was operating. 

Kinneddar Park and Cowstrandburn Residents Association 

C McCallum reported on the key points from the association's recent meeting. He described the similar problems of flooding in Kinneddar Park similar to those on the North Road play area. However, the big issue is speeding through both Kinneddar Park and Cowstrandburn with concerns that there could be serious injuries or deaths. While records show relatively few accidents recorded by Police Scotland, residents are aware of a number that have not been recorded. It was agreed that this matter be raised again with Fife Council.

More Speeding 

Lorries belonging to two named companies were the subject of complaints about speeding through Steelend and Saline. It was noted that David Storey was contacting the companies concerned and, if the problem persists, it was agreed that the police will be asked to take action 

November Meeting 

The next meeting will be at 7.30pm on Tuesday 29th November. Kevin Fairclough from Paths for All will be giving a presentation on the possible route of phase 1 of the Saline to Oakley and Blairhall paths. All welcome 

Church News 

The Italian Theme Supper Evening and Swop Shop were well supported and most enjoyable evenings, raising a total of £260 for the Restoration Fund. Thanks to all who contributed to the success in any way. Recently 28 decorated and filled Shoe Boxes and 2 boxes of knitted scarves, gloves etc. were sent to the Blythswood Care Christmas scheme - thank you again to all who made this possible.

The congregation are looking forward to welcoming their new minister the Rev. Alec Shuttleworth. The Service of Linkage with Tulliallan and Kincardine and Induction of the Minister will take place on Monday 14th November at 7.00pm, arranged by Dunfermline Presbytery and attended by members of both congregations. This will be followed by refreshments and a Social Evening. The Rev. Alec Shuttleworth will be 'preached in' by the Rev. Joanna Hood on Sunday 20th November at the new time of our morning services 9.30am.

The service on 13th November will be at the usual time of 10.30 am and will include an 'Act of Remembrance' at the war memorial at 10.50. The service will be conducted by the Rev. Tom McDonald.

The Guild are hosting a Concert on Monday 28th November with entertainment by 'The Musical Allsorts' from Clackmannan followed by a light supper. Tickets priced £5 will be available from Guild members ( Proceeds for Guild National projects).

Gardening Enthusiasts Dinner 

Summer has gone and autumn is nearly over. Little to do for gardeners who have put their spade and fork in the shed for the winter and little to see in the garden other than green conifers and dried up flower stands. As winter is coming and the garden is resting for the next few months this is an opportunity to come together, share your successes and failures from your flower or vegetable patch this year, ponder about if you might want to grow early potatoes in the unused corner of your garden next year and talk about inspiring gardens you might have visited recently. If you have not got much experience in gardening but are wondering if this will be your new hobby, if you have retired and want to spend more time in your garden or if you moved to the area recently and are considering what to do with your new plot you are particularly welcome. In addition this is also an opportunity to come together, enjoy a meal and have a blether.

The dinner takes place at Cherry Tree Lodge on Tuesday 22nd of November at 6:30 for a 7pm start. 

Jerusalem Artichokes are easy to grow (just put the roots in by early spring … you can get spare ones from us on the night) and have done well this year in the veg. plot here at Cherry Tree Lodge. They can be harvested in autumn and over winter when most other veg has finished. You will get a taste of them if you come along.

Dinner is free but a donation to go towards the funding of the printing cost for the Saline & Steelend Bulletin is very much appreciated. 

Please ring or e-mail Till to book a place 07834596272 or

116th Fife Scout Group 

The Group having now returned from its autumn break is now gearing itself up to take part in the annual Scout Christmas post. This is one of our main fund raising activities of the year. For areas covered please see advertisement below.


Along with a number of other Scout Groups in Dunfermline and surrounding area we are offering a Christmas Post for 30p per card. Cards will be accepted for:

Aberdour, Alva, Auchtermuchty, Backmuir, Bowershall, Blairhall, Cairneyhill, Carnock, Charlestown, Clackmannan, Coaledge, Comrie, Cowdenbeath, Cowstrandburn, Crombie, Crossford, Crossgates, Culross, Dalgety Bay, Dollar, Donibristle Village, Dunfermline, Freuchie, Gowkhall, Hallbeath, High Valleyfield, Hill of Beath, Hillend, Inverkeithing, Kelty, Kincardine-on-Forth, Kingskettle, Kingseat, Fordell Village, Ladybank, Limekilns, Lochgelly, Lumphinnans, Low Valleyfield, Menstrie, Muckhart, Newmills, North-Queensferry, Oakley, Pattiesmuir, Pitlessie, Rosyth, Saline, Sauchie, Steelend, Tillicoultry, Torryburn, Townhill, Tullibody, Wellwood.


Local collection points are:

GOWKHALL     Mr Tom McCreary, 39 Dean Ridge, Gowkhall

SALINE             Mrs Gail Clark, 14 Henderson Place, Saline

                          Mr Peter Philp, 70 Upper Kinneddar, Saline

STEELEND        Mr John Williams, 5 Knockhill View, Steelend - Evenings


116th FIFE SCOUT GROUP Scottish Charity Number SC031132 
Peter Philp - Group Scout Leader - 01383 852612 

Saline & District Heritage Society 

Our latest speaker was Sharon McColl on Louise Carnegie. She gave many fascinating facts such as the 2nd Carnegie library is not in the USA but in Grangemouth, of all places, that Louise signed a pre-nuptial agreement, so that is not just for celebrities today, and on her first visit to Dunfermline in 1887 she gifted £500 to build the bandstand in the public park and in 1934 she visited Bandrum's children's home.

Our next speaker is on Wednesday 30th November 7 for 7.30pm, George Lawrie on the Living Lomonds Heritage Trail. 

'With it being the last event before Christmas, there will be light refreshments, Xmas pies etc as well as the usual tea, coffee and biscuits, so leave room for your dinner.'

Approval has been given for Lady Kinneddar's epitaph in the Mausoleum so that should be going up in a couple of month's time.

The hutting development at Carnock. 

It seems to be taking an age but Reforesting Scotland’s Thousand Huts campaign is making progress with the proposed hut site at Carnock Wood. Rome wasn’t built in a day either but you would think that getting permission for 12 huts and a school outdoor classroom would be quicker than this. However, this will be the first hut site in Scotland since before World War 2, so we have to make sure it is done properly.

We submitted the preplanning application back in the spring. It came back from the planners generally supportive but needing some more details. We also had to do something about the sightlines from the forest road end. We arranged for the verge to be scraped back over the summer. Recently, we have been discussing the details with Forestry Commission Scotland which manages the forest on the public’s behalf.

So, we are poised to submit the full application. Once successful, we will then let everyone know about the opportunity to build huts at Carnock Wood. Two sites will be allocated to local people, as promised, and the other 10 will go to others living further afield. The school hut will be built later.

If you are interested in having a hut, watch this space. If you have any questions, you can Email me at - 07891 961 960

Donald McPhillimy for Reforesting Scotland - 

Well-being, Art & Nature @ Cherry Tree Lodge 

November Nurture Break @ Cherry Tree Lodge, 25-27 November - a weekend of drop in activities and meditations around the themes of stillness, movement, creativity and community. More details can be found by joining the group

We look forward to "being" with you - Mark and Till T:851059

Conmen Foiled 

Recently I've been told about two phone scams foiled by vigilant villagers in Saline & Steelend; one conman pretended to be from BT Openreach, the other from HMRC. Criminals are increasingly resorting to phone and internet scams and everyone ought to start taking more steps to stay safe. Here are a few pointers that I hope might help.

Any telephone caller who asks you to do anything with your computer, perhaps claiming that it is infected, is almost certainly a scammer. Never tell any caller the name of your bank, credit card etc. Never tell anyone who rings you anything about your accounts, your pension or passwords. The caller may have your name and some of your details and use these to lull you into a false sense of security, don't be fooled, genuine callers should NEVER ask for information like this. Your bank is highly unlikely to call and ask you to withdraw or transfer money, never do this on the say so of someone who rings you up.

If you really believe they're genuine, and if they claim to be from a bank, a reputable firm or Government department, for instance; tell them you'll contact them under your own terms. NEVER use a number or web address they've provided: look it up yourself in the normal way (118 000 is a directory enquiry service costing 80p+25p/min to ring from a BT line; some well-known services like 118500 and 118118 can cost seven times that much!). You can then contact HMRC or your bank, or whomever, and find out if the issue is genuine. DO NOT obey instructions from the caller to call back straight away (e.g with the number on the back of your bank card), the conman can just not-hang-up, keeping the line open; so when you ring back it's easy for them to pretend to be the bank switchboard.

A similar rule applies to callers offering to claim back PPI, or help you cash in your pension, etc. It is guaranteed that even if the cold-callers aren't utter crooks, they will take a huge cut of any money owed to you. Thank them for alerting you to the issue and hang-up. You may find that any monies owed to you are easy to claim on your own, and if not, there is help out there that won't cost you most of your entitlement!

Careful what you click on

Many cyber-security professionals say they have never registered for online banking; they say it's almost impossible to defend against the determined and highly-motivated attacker, and if your money is stolen you are unlikely to be compensated. Almost 5,000 RBS online customers have been scammed this year so far, losing a total of £25m, and 70% will never see their money again.

When online, simply clicking on an attachment or a harmless looking button on your computer or phone screen can put your life into the control of a hacker. Be VERY careful about what you click on. Never open an email attachment from anyone if you don't know who sent it and what's in it. If you're unsure about a link, e.g. in an email, then hovering your mouse over the link (without clicking) usually brings the destination up in the bottom corner of your browser: it's not 100% reliable, but is more likely to be kosher than for instance. If you're one of those who can't see why the first address looks safer than the second one (Apple will almost certainly own '' but 'appleituneswebstore' is an improbable domain that anyone could own and '.ph' means the site is in the Phillipines), you should be very cautious when shopping online or visiting new websites. Perhaps consider a bit of further reading or an evening class.

Remember that criminals can mimic the emails that come from your bank or other legitimate businesses. A popular scam in recent years has targeted people having building work done, fake emails purporting to be from the builder with invoices and account details induce victims to pay thousands into the wrong account. This is called 'phishing' and it also involves fake websites that look exactly like the real ones. Good anti-virus software will check the sites you're going to and may warn you, if you click through from Google for instance, that the site looks dodgy. The links in phishing emails often lead to plausible-looking websites, which are wholly controlled by the scammers, so they can see your passwords, etc., as you type them in.

Talking of passwords, the bad news is it's no longer ok to use real words or common names for a password, even with a number tacked on: any hacker can guess them with software that is widely available, and the criminals' computers are scanning the internet automatically for basic passwords like fluffy7 - attacking thousands of log-in pages simultaneously. The old chestnut 'don't use the same password for different sites' is more true now than ever. Keep your online passwords on a piece of paper, it's almost the only unhackable hardware. If the password really needs to be memorable (and it often doesn't, even if you don't keep a note - most sites will let you reset it if you forget), use symbols and a combination of cases like P@$$w0rD - or better still, Re£@x@t10n: because the pound sign (£) is hard to find on non-UK keyboards, thus making life difficult for those pesky hackers from outside the UK. The good news is that criminals are lazy, and making it just a bit too difficult is usually enough. Although it might be a pain to reset your passwords, it only takes minutes, and greater peace of mind is golden.

Lastly, a word about social-networking sites, like Twitter and Facebook. Your profiles are valuable to the bad guys in two ways. Firstly, they want your friends list. They can set up a clone of your account, using your name and profile pics, etc.; persuade your friends to accept the cloned account, then send out messages pleading for money, or otherwise exploit your good name (you can hide your friends list in security settings). The other aspect they're interested in is details that can help them hack your accounts, like your birthday, address, pet's name, parents' names, hobbies and interests: things that can help them answer security questions, so they don't need your password, they can reset it and lock you out of your account. For this reason, it's worth thinking carefully about how public your Facebook profile is, for instance. Facebook has a tool that allows you to see your page as if you were a stranger, friend or close friend. You can check to see what a scammer could find out about you just from your public profile.

In days gone by we learned to inspect the credentials of anyone who turned up unexpectedly on our doorstep. Nowadays the same precautions must apply to anyone who turns up unexpectedly on our telephone or computer. Genuine professionals who are calling out of the blue should not expect you to divulge information over the phone or send you files or email attachments you didn't ask for.


Steelend Miners’ Club 

One Sunday per month (look out for posters with dates), 2.00-4.00 pm: Children’s Club, entry £1. Come and join in the table tennis, pool, arts & crafts, and much more. 

Sambangra Drumming Group 
Tuesdays, 7.00pm-8.30pm, £2 

Saline Golf Club 

First Saturday of each month: Family Night, 5-7pm 
Tuesdays: Bingo Night, 7.30pm 
Thursdays: Quiz Night, 8.30pm, entry £1/person 
BT Sport TV and free wi-fi. Associate membership £10 per annum, £4 concessions 
Q’zine Catering: also available for all functions. 

Saline church hall, 3pm - 4.15 every second Tuesday from 8th November. Cost £5. Wear loose, comfortable clothing, and bring a blanket and some warm socks. 
Please contact  Rose on    for details.

Every Thursday 5.00pm-6.00pm 
Saline Church Hall 

Every Thursday 6.00pm-7.30pm 
Saline Church Hall 

116th Fife Scout Group 

Beaver Colony 
Every Friday, 6.00pm-7.30pm 

Cub Pack 
Every Thursday, 6.30pm-8.00pm 

Scout Troop 
Every Thursday, 7.30pm-9.00pm 

Explorer Unit 
Every Thursday, 7.30pm-9.00pm 

Carnock Community Centre, Camps Road, Carnock. Open to both boys & girls 

This Community Bulletin is produced by Saline and Steelend Communications Group